 Hello, good afternoon. Hi, good afternoon to you, too. Yeah, so good afternoon in dutch is a hooded middle, right? Who you made here, I might can say hello on her or my name or just my name. You're right. I'm all right. I'm starting the follow up interviews from last week. Yeah, yes, that's okay yeah. My thanks for you to change the postponed a bit for me, because I have my meeting with my supervisor supervisors before our call. So it's just finished. Okay. Okay, so this is for our following uh follow up interview. I will ask you several simple questions about how you use the cop at home. I don't use it. That's not easy. I cleaned it. I took up the etiquette, and then I put it in the cupboard and I did nothing else with it. Yeah, that's not a problem, but maybe just because maybe you have more thoughts on it. 
After you take it back home, you have some rethink on the system. Yes, I eat the cookies, and they are good, but i've ordered that I used, and I have plenty of them. So, yeah, yeah yeah. So my question is, can I return it to you? So you won't use it. You mean, right? Iiii don't think if i'm going to use it, because I don't like the round form. I almost I mostly have square forms, I square, so they fit more better in the coverage. I can put more square jars in it, then yeah yeah, I understand, yes. 
But maybe for some other purpose, because no, we didn't really ask the participants to return it because of the return it's uh quite unconvenience and also the postage of the returning thing will be much expensive than the cop itself. 
Yes, that's true. I ii could bring it to you or. Yeah, but I do you think that ii feel that's a trouble for you. You need to come out now, maybe in future I will use it for something I don't know yet. Yeah, or or, I or I can pick up it at or if you want, but i'm not sure do you live in. Delft delf? Do you live in delft? Ii? Don't understand. Do you live in deft? Yes, I live in though. 
So I think if you want to return it, then maybe I can come to a door to pick up it. That would be much convenient for you. Yeah. Yes, I don't know when I say we need to make a make a.. Yes, maybe we should leave it this way. Okay. How do you evaluate the cop in comparison to other food containers? Because you said about the ship, the you don't like the roundship. That's true. I think it would be why is your to have square shape and uh, but I also think it's more difficult to put the cap on it put the tap. Ii I think it's easier to use around shapes, gaps, and both then square escape for you for the machine. 
And so I don't know if it's possible to make them square. Yeah, I think it's possible. We just want to turn it down, so you have to make a clicking or show. Yeah, perhaps, but it's possible that we just want to understand more for the for the from the consumers to know what is much convenient for consumers to use. 
Not only you, there are a lot of other participants said they prefer to use the. The square one is rather than so i'm not the only one, especially when they want to put it in the cupboard of the drawer, the square one works better than the round one. Yes. Yeah, so that's one thing you found out. Sure. And did you clean the container, the jar? Yes, I cleaned it. And how do you clean it? Oh um with a brush and warm water and soap? Yeah. Then how do you make it dry with clothes? Was close, okay? Yeah, ii only saw the etiquette. I wanted to remove it when I did it before cleaning a piece that went easier than when I did it after cleaning, because then all the glue of staying on the pot and it was not so easy to get the glue off, but I did it yeah yeah. 
Yeah, I also have the feelings on that, but maybe you can use some alcohol to remove the. 
Yes, I I did, but and also I wondered if you clean it more time if the how do you call it? 
The center at the bottom will stay on it. You mean the chip on the bottom of the chip, the chip on the bottom. I don't know if it will hold for many times washing up. Yeah, if you wash it by hand, then it doesn't matter. It won't affect the chip. The chip will always work. It's still long. So maybe besides the complaints on the ship and do you uh, will you like to use the system again, if that is possible? In the real life? They're reliable. And there I think why in it that I like to buy and I will use it. Yeah. I think this is such a kind of system, is is, very good for the environment. Yeah, so you will still prefer to use the system, but you you don't want to use this kind of container, the jar. 
Yeah, so it's it's only what could be a little trouble. You can buy something spontaneous when you didn't take to the bottle with you again to the show. Yeah, a then I had to take a new one. Yeah. Maybe I could then give it back the next time when I do remember. Sure. So which would you prefer to use is your self container or the containers provided by the system, maybe in another ship that I think I would use the container of my own. Yeah. Only when you forget, perhaps you will get one from the system, right? Yes, I think so. Yeah, maybe when the containers do have another shape, then I would use them, but I don't think I like the round one, and I would take a container of my own. 
So it's I think that would be easier. 
Yes. Because last time you only brought back a small cup with the cookies, yeah yeah. And could you imagine that if you brought back several cups, maybe in the different size with the different products, then you will have several uh, reusable cups. And how would you prepare for your next shopping? Yeah, for the other shopping site to do. Yeah, when you finish the product, you want to do the shop second shopping you want to refuse them. And how you prepare for the shopping. I would take them in the back and then go to the shop. Yeah, how you decide how many cops or how many containers you will bring with you? Yes, it's difficult. You must be sure what you want to buy when you go and take the good cup with you have the containers and them by buy something. 
Yeah, but so it's a like a different um process like we normally go to the supermarket need to think it maybe in advance or you just bring randomly. 
And now you have to thinking before you go shopping from what we're like buying. Yeah. And what containers do I have to take with me? But I think in time you will get used to it to do it that way yeah. Maybe. Yeah, but i'm not getting you so easy to use things ii, even the. Forget my back to take with me and no no way to put shopping. Yeah, it's not your problem. I think most people have this concerns. It happens. Yeah, so maybe now it's not very easy to imagine that perhaps you will think what kind of product before you go to the supermarket, if you want to use that, that should be done. Iii make a list myself now. 
Why couldn't I think of what to buy and take the good container with me? I think most impossible. Yeah, when you have a list, maybe it's much easier. I I make a list for shopping when something is. It's to be failed. I I write it to write a a on a block, and the moment I see it's gone. And and then when I go shopping, there are all kinds of things on the list. So, so that's the way I do much of things. Yes. Okay, then do you feel your um actions in using the system? I as an individual um this, kind of actions will have an environmental benefits? Please, again, I do you feel your actions uh in using the system to refuse the products will have an environmental impact of environmental benefits? Yeah. And how do you feel about that when that's the most important thing about this? 
And I think that's why you can't use it yeah, because if you always want to do, i'm sure your packages away like you used to do, and then you don't need the system. You don't want to be good to do good things for the environment and you won't use the system, I think, but I do want to do good. 
I think I will try to do where to use the system. And do you feel how how? Do you feel when you do this kind of things to reuse and refuse the products? What's your feelings? Yeah, that i'm doing something that good for the environment and I even will make to tell it to all around. So they can use it that exist. And so they can use it too. I think I will do that. Can you repeat what you mean to reuse what? Ii will tell other people too, because I think it's a good thing. Yeah, okay, yes. You will recommend it this. I will recommend it the work. Okay? 
So maybe uh after this kind of system and you really try it. Do you feel different towards buying the products in single use packaging when you go to the supermarket? After this research? I always hate to do to use packages. I have to throw away. I also use now for the greener reason. So the little fact that you can i'm taken and you will use them again. So for the apples are going or the banana or so, you can use it in your own. Little fact, i'm taking home instead of plastics like. Yeah, that's what I do already. Ii never use the plastic effects in the supermarket on my own sex. That's great. So that will be possible with containers also. 
Then my last question, could you imagine this will become our main shopping approach for the groceries in the future? Sure. Yeah, so maybe for in the future, most of the packaged product on the shelf will be replaced by that would be great if that's possible. Yes. Yeah, so then the consumers need to form the new habit to be the political makers after change also there. Yes. But generally you will have the like the positive or the negative attitude towards this trend. The future, I will use it in future responsible. Yeah. Then that's all my questions. 
Thanks a lot for sharing your opinions with me again. I think it's fine. It's all right. I think it's a great system and I will surely use it if it's existing. Yeah. And also a lot of participants said they prefer to use their self containers rather than the one from the system. So I think it's a also good insights. Okay? Then yeah, have a nice day and i'm not sure how much such as your study and your description of what is going to. Thank you. Good luck. Bye bye. 